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12-07-2012, 10:30 PM | Post: #1
Offline Little-Juan 
Thinking of getting a new weapon for my recon. Got 4k funds left over from sponsorpay after getting my medic sorted out so though i may as well.

What is recommended? I see people running round with VSSs doing quite well but are they much cop over long range compared to others? Obviously i try and avoid CQC as recon so is there any point? That kind of leaves me with something for mid to long range. The default weapon isn't actually too bad but seems to just lack a bit of power. What do you guys suggest?

And do unlock prices reduce with each level until you reach the unlock level or do they just stay at the same price until you reach that level? e.g. does M24 stay at 4369 until i reach level 12?
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12-07-2012, 10:38 PM | Post: #2
Offline monstero 
Bad weapon about 700
Mid-Good weapon about 1200
Good weapon about 1400
Very good weapon about 3000

dont even think to buy something with a price of 4000

use this tool http://bfp4f.alchemical.ch/en/compare
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12-07-2012, 11:13 PM | Post: #3
Offline Reginvalt 
1k more funds and can buy devset. Sniper without at least precision barrel is useless... at least M24+precision+SP ammo. But you'll buy a devset anyway if you play sniper.

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12-07-2012, 11:28 PM | Post: #4
Online coroev 
with 4k funds a nice choice will be m24+precision barrel (when you have unlocked em).
but IMHO you should wait for 5k founds and get the devset, than wait for a m24 or l96 (m95 is too slow for me).

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13-07-2012, 07:22 PM | Post: #5
Offline BryanzThaIllest 
wtf is this devset sh*t?

im trying to buy a new sniper too, but damn, that sh*it is mad fuckin expensive.

is the precision barrel really all that?
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13-07-2012, 07:39 PM | Post: #6
Offline Ghostrider0067 
(13-07-2012 07:22 PM)BryanzThaIllest Wrote:  wtf is this devset sh*t?

im trying to buy a new sniper too, but damn, that sh*it is mad fuckin expensive.

is the precision barrel really all that?

The cost when combined in a set is far better than if you were to piece it out individually. Additionally, when buying the devset, you're granted immediate use of the items regardless of your given level. That in itself makes it worth the cost.

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13-07-2012, 07:45 PM | Post: #7
Offline p3rf0rat0r 
The Devset is the best you can do, the included viper mags alone are worth nearly what you pay for the whole set.

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13-07-2012, 07:46 PM | Post: #8
Offline BuckTester 
(13-07-2012 07:22 PM)BryanzThaIllest Wrote:  wtf is this devset sh*t?

im trying to buy a new sniper too, but damn, that sh*it is mad fuckin expensive.

is the precision barrel really all that?

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That's an example of a medic dev-set. It includes apparel, weapons and attachments at a bargain price usually.

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13-07-2012, 08:04 PM | Post: #9
Offline Little-Juan 
I wasn't neccesarily planning on spending all 4k, that's just how much I've got. Thing is I don't play recon much so it seems a bit of a waste to buy a full set. Esepcially as I don't care about the clothing. I've got the CB stuff, that's unique enough for me (not sure why it only says I'm OB here but whatever). And also is the recon devset cheaper than that medic one? Someone said i only need 1k extra but that medic one is 3k more (almost double).

Also, Monstero, i should point out my recon is only lvl 7 at the moment so guns aren't as cheap as they could be as I need to pay the unlock cost too.
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13-07-2012, 08:10 PM | Post: #10
Offline Dr.T-Bag 
Hi Juan,

try to get the funds for the Recon Devset including Precision Barrel, Viper Mags and Tactical stock...iit's a real good deal and you'll be happy with it. If you wanna play as "a real sniper", avoiding CQC in "extreme "and sniping on long range from cover, the M95 is the the one and only weapon!

On short and mid range the M24 is a very good rifle as well with a fast bolt action; means double shots in the same time..nice or shooting enemies bases where they're standing in a "crowd" :-)

The precision barrel is is very helpful in accourrancy and I won't miss it by quickscoping...there's none comparable barrel for snipers, the new copperhead got the same stats on bolt actions...check it with the weapon comparision tool...

Feel free to contact me via pm if you need some hints...defending rooftops or cranes are my profession and I can sit whole rounds on the crane in Oman i.e. (I love this map for sniping and heli piloting, making easy XP) with an Kill/ death of 10- 15 kills and maximum 3 deaths only...(propfed by screenshots if you need 'em)

Don't forget: sniping is a skill! :-)

Cheers

Doc

btw.: my native language is german...sometimes I didn't got every word in mind at once, by expressing something in english

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13-07-2012, 08:50 PM | Post: #11
Offline BuckTester 
Yes, the recon dev-set is 4999F.

The apparel included doesn't really matter, you get your moneys worth of attachments and weapons even if the apparel were removed. I do think that the dev-set is the boring option. There's already too many M95-rooftop-campers. The M95 isn't even all that good. Unless the sniper using the M95 is really good at landing headshots, you can outsnipe them pretty easily with almost any other weapon.

The precision-barrel is almost a necessity for a sniper though, it increases the projectile velocity of the rifle which in turn decreases the amount of bullet drop (and increases effective range).

If you're not high-ranked enough though, that will cost you. If you're going to be a mid-long-range sniper, the M24 is the choice for you. It has more bullet drop than the other bolt-action rifles but once you figure out the bullet drop, it is the second best bolt-action sniper rifle in the game after the L96.

Comparison between M24, M95, GOL, L96

Recon dev-set:
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13-07-2012, 09:16 PM | Post: #12
Offline Ghostrider0067 
I bought the M24 precision set a long time back and have enjoyed the investment. It got me the rifle, precision barrel (+4), stabilized stock (+4), and soft point ammo (+1). I can't remember what the price is/was, but it wasn't much when compared to a dev set. I can't look to see what the cost is now since I'm working. :/

Anyway, if you only want the weapon and some attachments, it's a worthwhile choice for less than the dev set. The M95 is far too plentiful and borders on annoying to me, but that just my opinion. I'd rather take the M24 or any other bolt action in its place. Despite my level allowing me to buy the L96, I stick to my M24 when not using my primary choice of M14 EBR.

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13-07-2012, 10:16 PM | Post: #13
Offline Dr.T-Bag 
Hey Buck , you're right in most of what you said, but outsniping a good sniper is very difficult when the target knows his job ;-) And "camping" doesn't mean that a good sniper makes a bad score, without supporting his team ..
Spotting, tracing and terminating missiles is the "job" recons have to do for the team, from long range,; capturing flags after a base is "save" is probably very important too..don't think that "campers" do nothing :-)

10-15 kills and 3 deaths only, with a score of more than 2500 up to 3500 by sniping , only, is more helpful than attacking and beeing killed in each attack... :-) You're right in saying that it must be a good sniper, able to place headshots on nearly every range; with the M95 , im worst case, the second shot must kill the target.

For moving targets the M95 isn't the best and fast bolts are necessary , definatly.

Do you know Sunbeam? he's an awesome sniper and brought camping on a new and higher level,,,

What's more satisfying than taking a sniper off his spot ;-)

Cheers

Doc

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13-07-2012, 11:08 PM | Post: #14
Offline BuckTester 
(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  Hey Buck , you're right in most of what you said, but outsniping a good sniper is very difficult when the target knows his job ;-)
Yes of course skill is always the deciding factor however, assuming the same skill, the faster RoF of the other sniper rifles will be the deciding factor in who gets the kill.

The M95 sniper HAS to land a headshot to be able to kill me faster than I kill him because if he doesn't, by the time he's reloaded, he's already dead.

(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  And "camping" doesn't mean that a good sniper makes a bad score, without supporting his team ..
Camping is usually pretty darn useless in this game. Yes of course keeping a flag from being capped is useful but there is, to my knowledge, no good camping-spot on any of the maps (possibly with Karkand as the only exception) which covers the entire map so once your team is pushing forward, the campers are left behind and thus not being very helpful to the team.

(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  Spotting, tracing and terminating missiles is the "job" recons have to do for the team, from long range,; capturing flags after a base is "save" is probably very important too..don't think that "campers" do nothing :-)
Just for your information, I have two rank 25 recon so I do know what a camper is and how helpful they are and in my opinion, campers are rarely very helpful. Usually, the people who camp rooftops end up in the lower spectrum on the score-boards with impressive K/D-ratio but unimpressive points and kills in general.

(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  10-15 kills and 3 deaths only, with a score of more than 2500 up to 3500 by sniping , only, is more helpful than attacking and beeing killed in each attack... :-)
I disagree, 10-15 kills and 1 death is a lot less helpful than 30 kills and 30 deaths if you have also captured flags and helped push the frontline.

Remember that the game is about winning, players have just forgotten that detail.

(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  For moving targets the M95 isn't the best and fast bolts are necessary , definatly.
I agree, killing an immobile target is easy with whatever weapon you're using (not only sniper rifles).

(13-07-2012 10:16 PM)Dr.T-Bag Wrote:  Do you know Sunbeam? he's an awesome sniper and brought camping on a new and higher level,,,

Nope, we haven't been introduced.

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13-07-2012, 11:50 PM | Post: #15
Offline Little-Juan 
Hmm, I'm thinking I may just wait until level 12 to get the M24 for the cheaper unlocked price. Precision barrel sounds cool but I just dont really play recon enough to justify the spend really. Is it really that important?
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14-07-2012, 12:01 AM | Post: #16
Offline Ghostrider0067 
(13-07-2012 11:50 PM)Little-Juan Wrote:  Is it really that important?

Precision barrel on a sniper rifle is almost a requirement. You can go without it, sure... but you'll regret it when facing those that have it.

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14-07-2012, 12:19 AM | Post: #17
Offline BuckTester 
(13-07-2012 11:50 PM)Little-Juan Wrote:  Hmm, I'm thinking I may just wait until level 12 to get the M24 for the cheaper unlocked price. Precision barrel sounds cool but I just dont really play recon enough to justify the spend really. Is it really that important?

Well, that's the good thing about the M24. You can learn to compensate for the bullet-drop whereas there is no other way to compensate for the lower damage of the GOL for example than by purchasing attachments.

Here's a screenshot to demonstrate the differences in bullet drop:
M24 - M24+Precision Barrel - GOL - M95
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In my opinion, Precision-barrel is definitely nice to have but not necessary, it should be your first attachment to purchase once you decide to get an attachment.

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14-07-2012, 01:03 PM | Post: #18
Offline p3rf0rat0r 
You could also wait for the SKS to be released, it will be by far the best semi-auto sniperrifle with the highest range of all rifles. It should hit the shop in 1~2 weeks.....

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14-07-2012, 01:44 PM | Post: #19
Offline Reginvalt 
(14-07-2012 01:03 PM)p3rf0rat0r Wrote:  You could also wait for the SKS to be released, it will be by far the best semi-auto sniperrifle with the highest range of all rifles. It should hit the shop in 1~2 weeks.....

SKS better than SVD/M110? Madness...

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14-07-2012, 01:59 PM | Post: #20
Offline Ghostrider0067 
(14-07-2012 01:44 PM)Reginvalt Wrote:  
(14-07-2012 01:03 PM)p3rf0rat0r Wrote:  You could also wait for the SKS to be released, it will be by far the best semi-auto sniperrifle with the highest range of all rifles. It should hit the shop in 1~2 weeks.....

SKS better than SVD/M110? Madness...

Agree on madness. A smaller cartridge and a shorter barrel than either those you listed? Hell, even my beloved M14 should be better. I'll probably buy it since I like variety and how it performs in BF3, not to mention the fact that I actually own one.

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