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10-04-2011, 09:56 AM | Post: #141
Offline iStalker 
Awesome Work m8!

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10-04-2011, 01:57 PM | Post: #142
Offline Johnysnake 
(10-04-2011 04:46 AM)mixmkz Wrote:  Very helpful stuff, I believe I've seen you in game before. Before I read this the only way I had to counter enemy fighters was to do the endless looping spiral, and since I fly with mouse and keyboard I usually end up either tiring out or losing.

But now that I learn the split S, and pull two of them in a row I can shake most of the enemy fighters I see.

Great to hear. Yeah, evasion tactics are very important. Keep practising. Wink


(10-04-2011 09:31 AM)Pinehearst Wrote:  Because of your guide Johnny I was able to do this.

Hehe very nice. Big Grin

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14-04-2011, 08:24 AM | Post: #143
Offline crazycanuck4 
Okay ..How do i get out of those high alttitude spins..I always seem to keep climbing and then go off the map..and dead,dead, dead..lol HELP PLZ!!!!!!

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17-04-2011, 07:27 AM | Post: #144
Offline EngineerationX 
Hey, I was wondering for the USMC jet facing the battlefield, how do you utilize the thruster so you won't have to almost dive into the water?
I'm assuming that it is a jump jet?
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17-04-2011, 10:38 AM | Post: #145
Offline pistolet-makarow 
great tut
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17-04-2011, 01:06 PM | Post: #146
Offline Ziggity 
(17-04-2011 07:27 AM)EngineerationX Wrote:  Hey, I was wondering for the USMC jet facing the battlefield, how do you utilize the thruster so you won't have to almost dive into the water?
I'm assuming that it is a jump jet?

You could just take off normally but if you hold S, the jet floats a bit...

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17-04-2011, 07:23 PM | Post: #147
Offline ShadeyTex2.1 
You don't mind to make a full map showing the positions of the AAs and the range so that we would know the clear spots throughout the map.

Oh yea you forgot something... Kamikaze. And the BEEEEEP warning comes with a rapid clickity clack sound too.

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17-04-2011, 07:45 PM | Post: #148
Offline ShadeyTex2.1 
(17-04-2011 01:06 PM)Ziggity Wrote:  
(17-04-2011 07:27 AM)EngineerationX Wrote:  Hey, I was wondering for the USMC jet facing the battlefield, how do you utilize the thruster so you won't have to almost dive into the water?
I'm assuming that it is a jump jet?

You could just take off normally but if you hold S, the jet floats a bit...

It's a vertical thruster made to hover from ground to air or air to ground. Hey Johnny! Make a guide on the F-35 JSF's thrusters!

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17-04-2011, 08:04 PM | Post: #149
Offline St0mpy 
(17-04-2011 07:27 AM)EngineerationX Wrote:  Hey, I was wondering for the USMC jet facing the battlefield, how do you utilize the thruster so you won't have to almost dive into the water?

ShadeyTex2.1 Wrote:Hey Johnny! Make a guide on the F-35 JSF's thrusters!


Keep holding your nose up as you take off from that one, better still kick it about a bit on upmax and get the nose straight up as u take off, ull look like a pro then Smile

the reason no one makes a guide for it is because no one uses it, its a deathmode, u cant go from hover to fly in less time than it takes for me to do a 180 and gun you down while you flail about going omg omg

think about it - if u cant fly the field without AA taking u down at full speed, how long do u think youd last if someone sees you go into hover out there? Sure in BF2 there was always the tale of super-mr-hover-chancer Vs dumb-team getting a rack of kills, but I assure you it was the exception Big Grin

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18-04-2011, 01:35 AM | Post: #150
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(17-04-2011 08:04 PM)St0mpy Wrote:  
(17-04-2011 07:27 AM)EngineerationX Wrote:  Hey, I was wondering for the USMC jet facing the battlefield, how do you utilize the thruster so you won't have to almost dive into the water?

ShadeyTex2.1 Wrote:Hey Johnny! Make a guide on the F-35 JSF's thrusters!


Keep holding your nose up as you take off from that one, better still kick it about a bit on upmax and get the nose straight up as u take off, ull look like a pro then Smile

the reason no one makes a guide for it is because no one uses it, its a deathmode, u cant go from hover to fly in less time than it takes for me to do a 180 and gun you down while you flail about going omg omg

think about it - if u cant fly the field without AA taking u down at full speed, how long do u think youd last if someone sees you go into hover out there? Sure in BF2 there was always the tale of super-mr-hover-chancer Vs dumb-team getting a rack of kills, but I assure you it was the exception Big Grin

I'm quite sure that someone will 1. Rent a server, Keep it to themselves. 2. Do stuff while those can't get on planes have to joke around on land. 3.... No 3 =/

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18-04-2011, 03:16 AM | Post: #151
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Great guide Smile

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18-04-2011, 11:07 AM | Post: #152
Offline Johnysnake 
(17-04-2011 07:23 PM)ShadeyTex2.1 Wrote:  You don't mind to make a full map showing the positions of the AAs and the range so that we would know the clear spots throughout the map.

Oh yea you forgot something... Kamikaze. And the BEEEEEP warning comes with a rapid clickity clack sound too.

I´ve been thinking about a AA position map. There are a couple reasons why i didn´t do that yet. But i might do that later.

Kamikaze??? Do you have any idea how much the goverment payed for your jet? The MIG-29 (RUS) was bought for around $29 million and for the F35 (US) $150 million!!! NEVER kamikaze your jet into something on purpose! It might be worth 7 kills, but your team will lose one of the strongest and fastest vehicles they have for a while. And you might face the risk that some unskilled pilot takes your jet when it respawns.
You should:
- spot every enemy that you see. Jets, tanks, APC´s, choppers, snipers, etc.
- take down enemy jets
- take out the AA´s
- try to prevent the enemy team from taking more flags
- support your team with an attack if they call for air support
- and a lot more
Just try to stay alive, don´t be a fool and support your team as much as you can.

About hovering... it´s cool, but it makes you such an easy catch. Be smart and make sure that you take off as fast as possible. So you can hunt down the enemy jets before they will get you.



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19-04-2011, 04:43 PM | Post: #153
Offline StannyKill 
We know that there are many more (bomber) jets in bf2. But how you are sure that those are coming to bfp4f?
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19-04-2011, 04:59 PM | Post: #154
Offline Johnysnake 
(19-04-2011 04:43 PM)StannyKill Wrote:  We know that there are many more (bomber) jets in bf2. But how you are sure that those are coming to bfp4f?

It was announced a couple months ago. I´m not sure if they still will add them to BFP4F.

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19-04-2011, 04:59 PM | Post: #155
Offline FearTheSun 
@Johny: Well, what about hovering to kill an AA gun? It's quite good imo, since you can move like you'd have a helicopter. Difficult to master tho.

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19-04-2011, 08:07 PM | Post: #156
Offline StannyKill 
When I want to set-up my joystick it does't know the difference between rolling and steering. Can you help me because I'm rolling with my joystick and steering with my A and D now.

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20-04-2011, 03:15 AM | Post: #157
Offline crazycanuck4 
(14-04-2011 08:24 AM)crazycanuck4 Wrote:  Okay ..How do i get out of those high alttitude spins..I always seem to keep climbing and then go off the map..and dead,dead, dead..lol HELP PLZ!!!!!!

NE1 very frustrating getting up there and then out of the map...

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20-04-2011, 10:51 AM | Post: #158
Offline St0mpy 
dont climb so high then, over about 600m youll go into stall mode untill your height drops back, and if that means you fly off the map with the controls froze, then just use it as a lesson and be careful next time

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22-04-2011, 11:40 AM | Post: #159
Offline Nosty 
(17-04-2011 07:23 PM)ShadeyTex2.1 Wrote:  You don't mind to make a full map showing the positions of the AAs and the range so that we would know the clear spots throughout the map.

Oh yea you forgot something... Kamikaze. And the BEEEEEP warning comes with a rapid clickity clack sound too.

it depends a lot on which AA gun is currently being used really.
the B gun is very bad against low flying, if B is up i usually tend to go low, the A gun isn't that great against the opposite side of the map (the RU side) due to it being blocked by a wall in front of it, D is bad against the RU side (wall behind it) but very good against every other area (both low and high).

I don't really care that much about the AA's anymore though, at first i whined about them a lot but nowadays i just try to keep in mind that there's always an AA gun up when the enemy has a certain point.
If the opposing team has A & B, i'll take out the B gun first & go for A afterwards, it gives you a minute or two of free flying time and it gives your team an advantage as choppers will be able to move about more freely in the meantime as well.
I've sort of made it my job to constantly make sure the AA guns are down, there's always someone that will get killed by one of your bombs, or a chopper, or something in the air, will get pissed off & man an AA gun after they respawn, so it's always a good thing to keep those blown up as much as you can.
I personally rarely get killed by an AA gun anymore when in a Jet, when i do die its because of a good enemy pilot, a lucky pilot, or just me being stupid and crashing into a tree while performing some acrobatics. ^^
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23-04-2011, 03:53 AM | Post: #160
Offline Aarondude 
This is an awesome guide. Chock full of good tips and information. Over and over again I was just like, "Wow. What a cool strategy - I had no idea you could do that." Been playing Battlefield for a long time, and always wished I could fly like the pro's. Thanks for sharing your insight and taking the time to make all this stuff.
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