AK47 aka Banana gun?

[=Sgt.Tuvok=]

Seriously i can tell for myself that i am a good player but the Ak47 just gives me the creeps, i own every assault weapon and let me say just one thing... each of them has its pro's and con's but overall they are on the same lvl.
The only odd one out is the AK47 i bought it perma cuz i wanted to own every assault weapon and i thought a lil bit challenge couldnt do wrong... so i put viper mags predator barrel, and stabilized stock on it + my m145 sight and went on an OG server. The conclusion is that i had a K/d between of 1-2 and that on most ocasion i missed although i did burst shots it just like the bullets wiggle in the air and search rather the wall than its object.

I dunno why EAsy made such a awesome russian gun so failing. Do you hate my country EAsy?
I just dont have the words to explain how much this weapon fails and if they want to raise the sellage of this weapon they should overhault the weapon itself... jeez it even has a sound like a submachine low-corner gun.

I shot with ak47 first time when i was 13 years old (which is over 6 years ago) and although the recoil was hard the gun was controllable and accurate and not to forget .. ITS NORMALLY LOUD AS HELL!!!

why screw such an awesome gun Easy?

[Merlini]

1. Yes, the game could use a sound overhaul.
2. I think AK47 should keep the high recoil but have a fast return rate.

Return; where the amount of time it takes for the gun to return back to its original position. Say you shot and the gun raises by 1 inch and the return value is 1, means it takes 1 second after shooting for the gun to drop by 1 inch again(returning to its original position)

[strangers123]

Only pistols have aim return and I think thats fine. Maybe reduce a little of the sidewards recoil.

[Solid]

Using a Scope on a Weapon which is supposed to be used on close and mid range is not a wise choice.

Even i scored pretty well with it because i played on my range, close and mid


Sound was never a topic for me, the symphony of destruction doesn´t need to be composed with realistic sounds (luckily i don´t even know most of the realistic sounds), i´m fine with it as long as i can identify every instrument

[DeltaForce]

(06-04-2012 10:48 PM)strangers123 Wrote:  Only pistols have aim return and I think thats fine. Maybe reduce a little of the sidewards recoil.

Nope

Comparison between SG SAIGA

[ROUGHRIDER13]

(06-04-2012 10:42 PM)=Sgt.Tuvok= Wrote:  ITS NORMALLY LOUD

Agreed, 7.62mm NATO right next to you sounds a little louder than a cannon.

[shodhu]

honestly...the AK-47 theres something about it, its so much fun to use. It sucks, too much recoil but its just so much fun to use. Idk why its just something about it that i cant put my finger on. You have to be near shotgun range to even use it but its fine.

[solid5nake]

I agree, the AK47 could really use a reworking in this game. The recoil would be fine if its damage was considerably higher then other assault rifles but in reality its not a noticeable difference at all (besides point blank range, but in that case other assault rifles make up for it with rof and you'll probably get lag/warp knifed anyway). Either the damage needs a boost possibly to the point where its a consistent three hit kill out to mid range (which again is already pretty short for the AK) or the recoil needs to be toned down so it can at the very least be bursted accurately, right now anything other then slow semi auto fire is pointless.

And the sound is horrible, if it at least sounded beastly maybe someone could justify using it. Right now its about on par with a silent fart.

[=Sgt.Tuvok=]

[Septuagint]

I have the ak as well. As far as reliability is concerned, the g3 is a better gun with attachments and the m145 scope. The Ak in this game is not so good.

[Mr.Profesional]

AK47 in this game is Underpowered with masive recoil and worst accuracy in class.

[Mickilla]

I'd say they had the balance and niche of the thing figured out just fine. High power in close quarters, but high recoil too. Makes perfect sense to me. But who knows, maybe they did exaggerate this just a little too much. Still, it wasn't anyone's fault but yours to try and put a scope on the thing. You should have known how much that would increase the recoil even further.

And if you want to make arguments about how in reality the AK-47 is such an amazing gun, well honestly it isn't. Its cheap and it doesn't break, that's all it has going for it. The 'genius' that went into designing its round was just taking the normal 7.62x54 rifle cartridge and slicing it in half right down the middle to produce the 7.62x39. The proportion is still powerful, but inefficient and with poor ballistics at long range. Why else do you think the Russians immediately ditched that round for the 5.45mm cartridge? The only ones left in reality who still use the old AK cartridge are just the cheapskates who can't afford anything better.

[Mr.Profesional]

(06-04-2012 11:47 PM)Mickilla Wrote:  I'd say they had the balance and niche of the thing figured out just fine. High power in close quarters, but high recoil too. Makes perfect sense to me. But who knows, maybe they did exaggerate this just a little too much. Still, it wasn't anyone's fault but yours to try and put a scope on the thing. You should have known how much that would increase the recoil even further.

And if you want to make arguments about how in reality the AK-47 is such an amazing gun, well honestly it isn't. Its cheap and it doesn't break, that's all it has going for it. The 'genius' that went into designing its round was just taking the normal 7.62x54 rifle cartridge and slicing it in half right down the middle to produce the 7.62x39. The proportion is still powerful, but inefficient and with poor ballistics at long range. Why else do you think the Russians immediately ditched that round for the 5.45mm cartridge? The only ones left in reality who still use the old AK cartridge are just the cheapskates who can't afford anything better.

We have an expert here? I think not... If you study better ... read all this and then talk.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...47_and_M16

[SpEnSAH]

(06-04-2012 10:42 PM)=Sgt.Tuvok= Wrote:  the gun was ..accurate

False.

Mr.Professional Wrote:We have an expert here? I think not... If you study better ... read all this and then talk.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...47_and_M16

Posting links to wikipedia neither certify you as an expert, nor help your case.

Mickilla Wrote:And if you want to make arguments about how in reality the AK-47 is such an amazing gun, well honestly it isn't. Its cheap and it doesn't break, that's all it has going for it.

True.

Mickilla Wrote:The 'genius' that went into designing its round was just taking the normal 7.62x54 rifle cartridge and slicing it in half right down the middle to produce the 7.62x39.

Wrong, it's even worse, he 'borrowed' the design (as well as for the gun itself). 7.92x33 Kurz, look it up.

[daiyue]

i own the AK as well, compare it with AEK, it simply fails.

[Mickilla]

(07-04-2012 12:00 AM)SpEnSAH Wrote:  

Mickilla Wrote:The 'genius' that went into designing its round was just taking the normal 7.62x54 rifle cartridge and slicing it in half right down the middle to produce the 7.62x39.

Wrong, it's even worse, he 'borrowed' the design (as well as for the gun itself). 7.92x33 Kurz, look it up.

The way I heard the story, good old Mikhail Kalashnikov understood that the Germans were onto something when they shortened their rifle cartridges, but when he actually had to manufacture an intermediate round of his own he didn't have much to work with but the classic 7.62x54mm rimmed round. He had to actually go to one of the Izmash factories and tell them to cut one of these in two to achieve the same effect as the German 'kurz' round.

[UGLY.FAT.KID]

AK47 is weak, no doubt about it. Medics are still waiting for their weapon, Recons received L96A1 and Engineers received Bizon and AK47 is useless, not fair.

But, what you actually wanted to do is to buy the most powerful AR (damage) and to equip it with attachments, especially high damage ammo (with viper mags AK47 is a 3-4 body shots kill) and you failed. Your plan was to dominate with 3 body shot kill weapon. That's the whole point. To be honest I like that because I don't want AK47 to be any better or more precise with so much damage that it makes.

You KNEW it was bad, you probably rented it earlier and thought:"OK, I'm gonna buy it and put the best attachments and dominate. With attachments it can't be that bad". Luckily, you failed.

[samanaslt]

Quote:I dunno why EAsy made such a awesome russian gun so failing. Do you hate my country EAsy?

Cause it is old, and stolen from germans, and dis is not simulator?

If they maked something u dont like, dont blame them that they hate your country, lol...

Look at good side. They even replaced China and MEC with Russian army!

[Ninja-Penguin.]

All the guns in this game are unrealistic in comparison to 1) real life and 2) each other. What I mean by this is that the G3 does less damage than an M4 even though it fires a 7.62mm round compared to the M4's 5.56mm NATO. Also, I think I'm right in saying that an MG36 is just a G36 with a Heavy Barrel and a C-Mag. And it does more damage than the MG3 which uses a 7.92mm round! Also, the AKS-74U is just a carbine version of the AK74, which fires 5.45mm rounds. It should pack just as much of a punch as an M4 does (well theoretically slightly less).

The point is, none of the guns in this game would even be close to the real life capacity of them. IRL, a pistol round to the torso would most likely require a CASEVAC, it would be excruciating. And if you want realism and balance in terms of this game then yes, the AK47 definitely needs a buff, but then so will many other weapons to be realistic to each other, yet somewhat balanced.

[Mr.Profesional]

WATCH and LEARN!!!