Legacy attachment removal and upcoming changes

[Dredned]

Next few weeks. In other words promises, promises promises. How long could it take to implement these changes? How long could it take to give us the +3 we were told we already received. Now you come clean and admit the +3 weapon wasn't even +3 it was +2? Why why why are you guys do dishonest? Why?

.......... why is it so hard for you guys at Easy to be honest? If your going to make a +3 make it a plus three not +2. Why was it not called a +2 weapon? Honesty is the best policy. Much of the problems come from your deceitful ways and dishonest practices.

Just be honest with us. Please.

-Ned

[Hans95]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:20 PM)ReconWarrior13 Wrote:  Seriously, how long does it take and how hard is it to change some numbers in the code to fix the problem? I programmed games before: it doesn't take much effort just to change the values of the damage and ammo and recoil in the code!

Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

Fully intended you said ? But not fully required ! Think about what we require. We're customers, don't forget it, the customer is always right !

[AJoao611]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:20 PM)ReconWarrior13 Wrote:  Seriously, how long does it take and how hard is it to change some numbers in the code to fix the problem? I programmed games before: it doesn't take much effort just to change the values of the damage and ammo and recoil in the code!

Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

Can you please just tell us one thing? Just this? If your superiors didn't give you authorization to answer this or they just didn't tell you the answer, then please just say so.
We do know the legacy attachments were bugged, giving them more power than what they should. If so, why weren't they fixed in the first place? Who knows, maybe they wouldn't be Over Powered...

PS: I even wrote in good english just for you

[acacommando]

(10-01-2012 04:14 PM)Wixx Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 03:39 PM)acacommando Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 02:33 PM)VitalBullet Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 02:16 PM)Septuagint Wrote:  The interesting thing is vitabullet likes the run and gun aspects of this game. Check his people profile. Lol.

Apparently now he doesnt anymore.

No, I still do.
I just don't get 30+ kills and only a handful of deaths any more.
So now I actually have a challenge against everyone

I like having to try harder to get good scores

PLEASE MAN YOU ARE INSULTING MY INTELIGENCE

Pls newbs will be newbs ..good players stay OP even if you reduce the guns to bows arrows and knifes.

im not a noob and what i payed for is what i payed for

[acacommando]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:20 PM)ReconWarrior13 Wrote:  Seriously, how long does it take and how hard is it to change some numbers in the code to fix the problem? I programmed games before: it doesn't take much effort just to change the values of the damage and ammo and recoil in the code!

Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

ok you did wrong now take everything back how it was before

[Parrina]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:20 PM)ReconWarrior13 Wrote:  Seriously, how long does it take and how hard is it to change some numbers in the code to fix the problem? I programmed games before: it doesn't take much effort just to change the values of the damage and ammo and recoil in the code!

Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

You sad excuses for devs are really full of it.You cant even come up with a good excuse why you ripped us off.At least tell the truth but maybe you believe in your own lies.

[acacommando]

give me my weapons back

[acacommando]

give me my weapons back give me my weapons back

[Engel30]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

I think that since you release the BOOSTERS, at least 99% of the community have been complaining about the Overpowered BOOSTERS . . .
i havent read a single post from a player complaining about overpowered weapons . . .

and if someone actually complain for the Elite/veteran weapons to be overpowered, it was probably the 1% . . . it is the 1% of the players that do not Spend Real money in your game....

so . . .

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

I would suggest that you RE-EVALUATE the game, community, and forum response since the the December 20th update . . .
http://battlefield.play4free.com/en/foru...?tid=61323

Now you tell me . . .
How did the December 20th Update improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.?

The Community & Forum response is the same . . .
every single post made in the forum, by the players since Dec 20th is complaining about this "+3 weapons" . . .

And your response is the same . . .
"we did this change because the community asked for it . . . "

What Community!?

Then what i gt from what you have been saying is that, we the players that have been spending real money (99%) in your game since the closed beta . . . Are not a priority for you . . . . ¬¬
That your top priority is to make the game more fun for those who havent spent a sinlge dime n your game . . . (1%)

And i have some questions for the Community:
How many of you have spend money on Battlefield Play4Free?
How much money have you spend in Battlefield Play4Free?
How many of you ever complianed about the Elite/Veteran guns to be overpowered?
and How many of you have complain for the "BOOSTERS" to be overpowered?

How do you feel about the Response from the Developers?
Do you think that by doing this they actually improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole?

[Crisagon]

great job EA, took off the biggest thread from bfp4f forum, and opened this one where new players cant acces from main game page...great job hidding the true about you from all the other players...
shame

[smookien]

It's not normal... Give me back my elite weapon!!! I have bought it!!! Я б не покупал их если б знал какие вы уроды.!!! Спасибо за испорченое настроение... Желаю вашей игре большых потерь!!!
I hate EA!!! Shame on you!!!

[[OG]Darkness]

please: double ammo amounts! more ammo per clip
and recoil down! some guns (QJY, SVU, m1a2, m110) are useless with this recoil!
and serious? 15 ammo for the AKS?

[Adrian.R]

i think, aeria will soon take over this place...

[Hans95]

(10-01-2012 06:17 PM)Engel30 Wrote:  And i have some questions for the Community:
How many of you have spend money on Battlefield Play4Free?
How much money have you spend in Battlefield Play4Free?
How many of you ever complianed about the Elite/Veteran guns to be overpowered?
and How many of you have complain for the "BOOSTERS" to be overpowered?

How do you feel about the Response from the Developers?
Do you think that by doing this they actually improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole?

Me (can't answer for the others.)
Kinda 100€.
Not me.
ME !!

Absolutely not, until they remove stupid attachments AND boosters.

[Pannenfahrer]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

Wait nothing was broken? Read this ---> http://battlefield.play4free.com/en/foru...?tid=62993

Tells us how true you statements is. You can´t deny the fact that the Legacy attachments made our stock weapons STRONGER than the ones we owned before EAsy introduced the customization feature. Of course this caused imbalance. Instead of FIXING this and offering base weapons with the possibility to upgrade those with attachments that are on par with fixed Legacy attachments EAsy decided to just take ours away.

Now you have already supplied us with an answer to why this happened.
Your answer is that it was fully intended. Yeah that´s true. It was all planed right from the start. EAsy simply wants to milk the same cow not only twice, as some people use to say, but on a regular basis. EAsy is turning this game slowly into a subscribtion based game.
You CAN´T deny the fact that almost NOTHING in this game can be used properly for free now. Not even the weapons for which we´ve already paid money to own forever.

What´s next? Renting a wardrobe for our apparelbecause otherwise we won´t be able to store it thus not be able to equip it?
Or a renting option for a box / drawer for our weapons. Then we´ll be able to rent a certain amount of slots for out weapons so that we can equip only those for which we´ve rented a place.

Granade don´t work as they´re. Yes I know they work as EAsy intended them to work.
Claymores don´t work as they´re supposed to. Yet again it´s EAsy´s intention.
RPGs the same.
Mortar Strike the same again.

Tank´s main canon´s splash damage is a JOKE. Yeah it´s EAsy´s idea of balance.
Coaxial machine gun. WORST SPREAD EVER. It is a coaxial machine gun and has literarely no recoil cause of the mass of the tank and yet the bullets spread like HIV/AIDS in Africa.

Since when do SMGs have 15 bullets per mag? (AKS-74U) Yeah since EAsy had an idea.
Since when are assault rifles so inaccurate. Since when is the XM8 and M4A1 so powerful that the recoil is uncontrolable by a trained soldier and at the same time the weapons are so freaking weak?

Why are the sniper / marksmen rifles the ONLY guns in this game that have bullet drop although their range is the highest? I don´t care about stupid arguments like "Dude it´s a challenge." No it´s not. In this game it´s a disability especially with camera shake. It´s already hard enough with camera shake but bullet drop is killing the fun simply because snipers aren´t that effective on the battlefield.
Remove bullet drop from sniper/marksmen rifles and they won´t need any mortar strike. Trust me on that. Or simply lower it a lot so that people can actually snipe decently without aiming 5 metres above the head over a range of 150 metres. That´s just stupid.

Why do assault rifles have 20 bullets per mag. Ever had a real AEK-971 in your hands? Standard mag size is freaking 30 bullets.

Advanced Tank and APC armor used to be a skill and now it´s gone. You´ve removed the skill from Recon to carry more sniper rifle mags while leaving the Engineer´s skill to carry more RPGs alone right? Makes NO SENSE. How can an engineer even carry 5 RPG, 4 granades, an XM25 and 5 mines. On top of that of course the primary and secondary weapons. I don´t expect 100% realism but that´s just over the top.

People were right. One day they´d make us pay for bullets. Look what we have here. We have to pay for bullets. And yes. One day we´ll also have to pay for gasoline, kerosene, drivers licences and piloting licences.

The game is broken in every possible aspect.
I just wonder when you´ll turn Increased Jogging and Sprinting Speed into a Booster too. Carring two primary weapons, carrying heavier equipment basically, could be a skill but here it´s a Booster.
So why should a skill to jogg and sprint faster not become a Booster as well?
You wouldn´t sell it as Booster I guess. You´d give it some name of a drug which enhances physical performance. LOL

Game is broken. Face it.

[c2-BlackAdder]

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

He's right you know; there was a rediculous amount of posts in the forums requesting the weapons to be nerfed and replaced with spud guns and also adding recoil that makes your "replacement weapons" on par with the ones we already had or was i dreaming that.
Of course if nothing was broken in the first place then the only thing intended was to change the way the guns and attchments are available to make people PAY MORE; nothing to do with more fun and enjoyable gameplay.
TBH you all talk the talk but at the end of the day you all talk shite.

Remember if you can't fix it with a hammer its an electrical fault.

[nno)))]

i was wondering about one thing: after 20th of december my permanently bought holo SAW has changed into permanent SAW with permanent holo AND permanent SAW +3. the same thing with ES M95. sooo you took my nice gun and replaced it with two dirty ones? lol. it's a shame, that i won't play this game anymore, i used to like it very much. but you screw it up robbing me, EA.

[Parrina]

(10-01-2012 06:46 PM)Kugelhagel Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

Wait nothing was broken? Read this ---> http://battlefield.play4free.com/en/foru...?tid=62993

Tells us how true you statements is. You can´t deny the fact that the Legacy attachments made our stock weapons STRONGER than the ones we owned before EAsy introduced the customization feature. Of course this caused imbalance. Instead of FIXING this and offering base weapons with the possibility to upgrade those with attachments that are on par with fixed Legacy attachments EAsy decided to just take ours away.

Now you have already supplied us with an answer to why this happened.
Your answer is that it was fully intended. Yeah that´s true. It was all planed right from the start. EAsy simply wants to milk the same cow not only twice, as some people use to say, but on a regular basis. EAsy is turning this game slowly into a subscribtion based game.
You CAN´T deny the fact that almost NOTHING in this game can be used properly for free now. Not even the weapons for which we´ve already paid money to own forever.

What´s next? Renting a wardrobe for our apparelbecause otherwise we won´t be able to store it thus not be able to equip it?
Or a renting option for a box / drawer for our weapons. Then we´ll be able to rent a certain amount of slots for out weapons so that we can equip only those for which we´ve rented a place.

Granade don´t work as they´re. Yes I know they work as EAsy intended them to work.
Claymores don´t work as they´re supposed to. Yet again it´s EAsy´s intention.
RPGs the same.
Mortar Strike the same again.

Tank´s main canon´s splash damage is a JOKE. Yeah it´s EAsy´s idea of balance.
Coaxial machine gun. WORST SPREAD EVER. It is a coaxial machine gun and has literarely no recoil cause of the mass of the tank and yet the bullets spread like HIV/AIDS in Africa.

Since when do SMGs have 15 bullets per mag? (AKS-74U) Yeah since EAsy had an idea.
Since when are assault rifles so inaccurate. Since when is the XM8 and M4A1 so powerful that the recoil is uncontrolable by a trained soldier and at the same time the weapons are so freaking weak?

Why are the sniper / marksmen rifles the ONLY guns in this game that have bullet drop although their range is the highest? I don´t care about stupid arguments like "Dude it´s a challenge." No it´s not. In this game it´s a disability especially with camera shake. It´s already hard enough with camera shake but bullet drop is killing the fun simply because snipers aren´t that effective on the battlefield.
Remove bullet drop from sniper/marksmen rifles and they won´t need any mortar strike. Trust me on that. Or simply lower it a lot so that people can actually snipe decently without aiming 5 metres above the head over a range of 150 metres. That´s just stupid.

Why do assault rifles have 20 bullets per mag. Ever had a real AEK-971 in your hands? Standard mag size is freaking 30 bullets.

Advanced Tank and APC armor used to be a skill and now it´s gone. You´ve removed the skill from Recon to carry more sniper rifle mags while leaving the Engineer´s skill to carry more RPGs alone right? Makes NO SENSE. How can an engineer even carry 5 RPG, 4 granades, an XM25 and 5 mines. On top of that of course the primary and secondary weapons. I don´t expect 100% realism but that´s just over the top.

People were right. One day they´d make us pay for bullets. Look what we have here. We have to pay for bullets. And yes. One day we´ll also have to pay for gasoline, kerosene, drivers licences and piloting licences.

The game is broken in every possible aspect.
I just wonder when you´ll turn Increased Jogging and Sprinting Speed into a Booster too. Carring two primary weapons, carrying heavier equipment basically, could be a skill but here it´s a Booster.
So why should a skill to jogg and sprint faster not become a Booster as well?
You wouldn´t sell it as Booster I guess. You´d give it some name of a drug which enhances physical performance. LOL

Game is broken. Face it.

Bang on !

[Pannenfahrer]

I can only suggest one thing to all people who like Battlefield-like games but don´t want to spend money on EA games to just download Söldner Secret Wars for free if you own a low tech PC.
I could Play Arma 2 as well. My PC is not the problem but Söldner is a lot of fun.
You´d save money on this game and could rent a server for you and your friends, or your clan and have a lot of fun. The game might look outdated and a little slow in the beginning but once you get used to it it can get pretty intense.
I love it. Shame´s only that there aren´t many people playing it and the amount of servers is quite low.
Well. I´ll try Arma 2 too. ^^

[Hans95]

(10-01-2012 06:54 PM)Parrina Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 06:46 PM)Kugelhagel Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 05:34 PM)Silvanoshi Wrote:  Nothing has broken in the first place that requires a fix, the Dec 20th changes were fully intended. After evaluating the game, community, and forum response since then, it has been concluded that the additional tweaks outlined at the start of this thread could help to improve Battlefield Play4Free as a whole.

Silvanoshi

Wait nothing was broken? Read this ---> http://battlefield.play4free.com/en/foru...?tid=62993

Tells us how true you statements is. You can´t deny the fact that the Legacy attachments made our stock weapons STRONGER than the ones we owned before EAsy introduced the customization feature. Of course this caused imbalance. Instead of FIXING this and offering base weapons with the possibility to upgrade those with attachments that are on par with fixed Legacy attachments EAsy decided to just take ours away.

Now you have already supplied us with an answer to why this happened.
Your answer is that it was fully intended. Yeah that´s true. It was all planed right from the start. EAsy simply wants to milk the same cow not only twice, as some people use to say, but on a regular basis. EAsy is turning this game slowly into a subscribtion based game.
You CAN´T deny the fact that almost NOTHING in this game can be used properly for free now. Not even the weapons for which we´ve already paid money to own forever.

What´s next? Renting a wardrobe for our apparelbecause otherwise we won´t be able to store it thus not be able to equip it?
Or a renting option for a box / drawer for our weapons. Then we´ll be able to rent a certain amount of slots for out weapons so that we can equip only those for which we´ve rented a place.

Granade don´t work as they´re. Yes I know they work as EAsy intended them to work.
Claymores don´t work as they´re supposed to. Yet again it´s EAsy´s intention.
RPGs the same.
Mortar Strike the same again.

Tank´s main canon´s splash damage is a JOKE. Yeah it´s EAsy´s idea of balance.
Coaxial machine gun. WORST SPREAD EVER. It is a coaxial machine gun and has literarely no recoil cause of the mass of the tank and yet the bullets spread like HIV/AIDS in Africa.

Since when do SMGs have 15 bullets per mag? (AKS-74U) Yeah since EAsy had an idea.
Since when are assault rifles so inaccurate. Since when is the XM8 and M4A1 so powerful that the recoil is uncontrolable by a trained soldier and at the same time the weapons are so freaking weak?

Why are the sniper / marksmen rifles the ONLY guns in this game that have bullet drop although their range is the highest? I don´t care about stupid arguments like "Dude it´s a challenge." No it´s not. In this game it´s a disability especially with camera shake. It´s already hard enough with camera shake but bullet drop is killing the fun simply because snipers aren´t that effective on the battlefield.
Remove bullet drop from sniper/marksmen rifles and they won´t need any mortar strike. Trust me on that. Or simply lower it a lot so that people can actually snipe decently without aiming 5 metres above the head over a range of 150 metres. That´s just stupid.

Why do assault rifles have 20 bullets per mag. Ever had a real AEK-971 in your hands? Standard mag size is freaking 30 bullets.

Advanced Tank and APC armor used to be a skill and now it´s gone. You´ve removed the skill from Recon to carry more sniper rifle mags while leaving the Engineer´s skill to carry more RPGs alone right? Makes NO SENSE. How can an engineer even carry 5 RPG, 4 granades, an XM25 and 5 mines. On top of that of course the primary and secondary weapons. I don´t expect 100% realism but that´s just over the top.

People were right. One day they´d make us pay for bullets. Look what we have here. We have to pay for bullets. And yes. One day we´ll also have to pay for gasoline, kerosene, drivers licences and piloting licences.

The game is broken in every possible aspect.
I just wonder when you´ll turn Increased Jogging and Sprinting Speed into a Booster too. Carring two primary weapons, carrying heavier equipment basically, could be a skill but here it´s a Booster.
So why should a skill to jogg and sprint faster not become a Booster as well?
You wouldn´t sell it as Booster I guess. You´d give it some name of a drug which enhances physical performance. LOL

Game is broken. Face it.

Bang on !

Massive +1