Appeal to the devs: competitive mode needed

[GabelDiePommes]

Hey there!

Im a member of the german clan Team Unforgiv3n. And i'm writing this in the name of our BFP4F-players.

ATM BFP4F IS NOT PLAYABLE IN LEAGUES OR EVEN FUNWARS.

With tier 3 a lot of boosters have been released. Teams that are using boosters like grenade booster, rpg booster, body armor & co have a huge advantage. We've played 2 funwars since the tier3-update and it was the biggest **** in terms of competitive play that we've ever seen.

You have no chance if u play without boosters against a team that equips 'em. If u want to win in leagues/cups u would need to spend 10.000 credits for each match (only boosters - no weapons) to be able to compete with your opponent. It is really pathetic that even if u play 4+ hours a day your credits are insufficient for the "basic equipment" needed.
You could grab battlefunds to buy all this stuff... NOT. Sorry but the items in the store are so extremely overprized that u shouldn't even think about it (would be like 5€/day Oo).

We are CLANGAMERS. We play in clans because playing alone is too boring for us. We play in clans cause we want to play in/as a solid team. We play in clans to compete against other teams, because public gaming is not a CHALLENGE in our eyes. That is what gaming means for us. That's what makes it interesting - that keeps us playing.

Everyone of our players has spent money to get weapons, apparels & co. WE ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS (in opposition to a lot of "for-free-gamers")!!! And we accepted that we need to continuously spend money to be able to compete. New weapons & boosters couldn't stop us from playing. We also use boosters & co sometimes on public.

We think that we aren't only the few guys from our clan who are thinking and playing in this way. Take a look in the clan-section in the forums... or at the teams registered in leagues & ladders. That are a lot of teams... a lot of players... and the most of 'em i've seen in-game have spent money to get their equipment.

We also need money for server rental. Yeah - clanservers are the most servers out there that i find open for public gamers; except the promotion/testservers of the server hosts. WE are providing servers where the community - even the "i play 4 free without spending a penny"-guys (who are like gold dust in clans lulz...) - can play.

ALL IN ALL: NOW IT IS ENOUGH. This amount of money is WAY TOO MUCH. It isn't acceptable/payable any more. Buying all these boosters every day for playing in ladders and leagues is impossible Oo.

PLEASE DEVS: GIVE US A GAME-MODE FOR COMPETITIVE PLAY! Give us the possibility to disable and/or control boosters, weapons & co to level the playing-field.

It would be in your own interest. If we cannot play BFP4F in a competitive way this game isn't interesting for us any more. There is no "challenge".
A lot of clangamers will quit and retreat to games they played before, new games, completely different genres (where EA doesn't have such a huge influence )...

less paygamers > less money & less servers for everyone.
So, please do us and yourselves a favor!

Greetings to all other clans & teams. We hope to see ya in leagues, cups, ladders & funwars

GabelDiePommes / Team Unforgiv3n


//edit 02.11.2011

well guys... it seems to be too late... buyable training points LOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

competitive play on a leveled playing-field is now absolutely impossible.

WE ARE QUITTING THIS GAME NOW. OUR LAST SERVER WILL GO DOWN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. it was a really short nice time with you. greetings to all clans. In special to exp... thx guys for all the clan/trainwars & greetings to ur p4f-players

I FEEL RLY SORRY FOR THE FEW OF OUR GUYS WHO TRIED TO GET BFP4F INTO THE 4PL-League. ALSO I'M SORRY FOR THE OLDGUYS & THEIR P4F-League. EVERYTHING IS OVER BEVORE IT HAS BEGONE... a lot of work & time wasted for nothing ...

GZ TO THE DEVS OF THIS GAME DIE IN HELL U %($Z"&!Q§&%$$T!/&T§(/ !!!

[303ConArtist]

A tl;dr version: you want squads and the ability for modding/more admin tools and you are feel these boosters ruin the game.

Join the club.

[Smorr]

Just make YOUR game a bit more clanfriendly.

In fact, nearly every clanplayer will buy or already has bought weapons, we dont want you to take out a big money pump for you, which boosters actually are, this game (and especially clans) need a way to unable boosters on servers or even make it clear to see which players are using it. You could make it viewable in the scoreboard for example.
You know, bit work for you, big happy (still paying)community.

Cause paying is and still should be AN OPTION, NOT A MUST HAVE.

And if you make it viewable for everybody who uses Booster - do yourself a favour, dont let it sound like a viewable gimmick like "elite player" "pumped up" nor give people the feeling using it is kind of elite playing...just simple "Booster using".

ps: dont discuss or troll about tier 3 here... stay focused on the TE thoughts

In every way i agree with this:
"PLEASE DEVS: GIVE US A GAME-MODE FOR COMPETITIVE PLAY! Give us the possibility to disable and/or control boosters, weapons & co to level the playing-field."

this is just a quick thought to get ur ones in the right direction:


/sign Smorr / Team Unforgiv3n

[[EXP]Dr.Green]

I agree with GabelDiePommes. Im from the clan non-expendables and a lot of us are going to quit.
If you dont overthink tier 3 and make it a competetive game again, a lot of us will never play again.
Cause of that I m not going to buy BF3. I paid money for that game and im realy unhappy that I ve done that.

[GabelDiePommes]

Even a possibility to turn off boosters on unranked & password protected servers would be enough to give competitive-players a leveled playing-field for leagues, ladders & clanwars.

Absolutely 0 financial loss. It would keep a bunch of gamers interested in this game...

[=Energy=Medic]

Hello first I'm a team player, said of the UFG and how well my team has players that people can not afford this every day to buy Boost makes even the players broke even if you see it that way will.Ich think it is inaktzeptabel ... so I'd like to hope that it will at some gerregelt how one can make these boosts in Clan Wars, at least. I think I wanted to say exactly the vielle players can play what most customers think of the game. So if that would work so on then the game would no longer make sense for me, which I also have purchased weapons from the shop.
Please do what the other hand, the example of what is on the screen is great.



Vielle, thanks for your efforts in advance.

= = BlackHawkDown

[FpmK]

I Agree with the idea above, that a option should be integrated, that Player/Admins can see or regulate their server with or without booster-user.
i am not generally against the idea of booster or the prices, but to play at least fair against other clans or member it would be an very nice way to regutalte server or to controll how booster can be used or not... it shouldnt be like: knife only server, or no booster server, thats not how i see the discussion intended.


my 2cent...

FpmK [Bundeswehr Clan]

[German_Tabard]

We hold the same opinion.

I think it's completely superfluous extra booster to get this into play. New weapons are ok, or new Gatget .. but no booster. This spoils the fun of playing

In addition, as mentioned, we generally have at Funwar, or Clan Wars, the problem is that the force distribution is clearly for sale.

Now apart from the cost, it would be inefficient to buy these booster ....

I ask for the option that we can disable this booster as well as server owners, just like the selection of weapons. Since some weapons for a clan was just over-Powered are!

I ask for a little development work in the admin tools are located here on the market!

On behalf of the members of the Bundeswehr Clan

German Tabard

http://www.bundeswehrclan.de

[SnakeXT]

Agree as well. I find it shocking that grenades/mines/rpg are nurfed and you need boosters to increase its damage radius. vehicle armor should be a points option not a purchase option. Even if it was credits only purchase, its unlikely you'd make what you've spent back.

Now that the OP has mentioned people using boosters like dual weaponry, some clan members were using these, some were not. Besides skill and map knowledge that was a huge advantage. Little late to cry about but just pointing it out during the cup.

Its not cost effective either which is true. Maybe the only 2 boosters which are probably worth your money is the XP/C boosters. They progressively increase your rate of ranking up and unlocking points. The rest isn't worth it.

[Smorr]

GIVE US A GAME-MODE FOR COMPETITIVE PLAY! Give us the possibility to disable and/or control boosters, weapons & co to level the playing-field.

[Kabboose]

I fully support this, keep your boosters out there, we can't change your mind on that. At least give us the option to turn the blasted things off. You've turned this game into BFH, a cartoony unrealistic game. This was supposed to be a break from all those lone wolf, power up focused games. Something BATTLEFIELD was made for. You've completely ruined the name BATTLEFIELD with your boosters. Threw what the very game meant into a dark hole in the ground. BF2 was a huge success cause it was based on skill, not what you had in equipment. Learn from it, embrace it, and for god sake don't ignore it.

[-SM-MED-NB93]

Totality Agree with you
/Sign
Noobkiller| French Tactical Unit

[C4rlUn1t]

(27-10-2011 05:19 AM)Smorr Wrote:  GIVE US A GAME-MODE FOR COMPETITIVE PLAY! Give us the possibility to disable and/or control boosters, weapons & co to level the playing-field.

Think everyone should post this again:

GIVE US A GAME-MODE FOR COMPETITIVE PLAY! Give us the possibility to disable and/or control boosters, weapons & co to level the playing-field.

P.S. and new game mode would be a revolutionary idea. Think about it

[-:Macbeth:-]

(27-10-2011 09:25 AM)Kabboose Wrote:  I fully support this, keep your boosters out there, we can't change your mind on that. At least give us the option to turn the blasted things off. You've turned this game into BFH, a cartoony unrealistic game. This was supposed to be a break from all those lone wolf, power up focused games. Something BATTLEFIELD was made for. You've completely ruined the name BATTLEFIELD with your boosters. Threw what the very game meant into a dark hole in the ground. BF2 was a huge success cause it was based on skill, not what you had in equipment. Learn from it, embrace it, and for god sake don't ignore it.

This^^

BF3 was a disappointment because it ignored most things that veteran players loved. Everyone is either Camping, Crawling or Sniping, The Jets and Helo's get shot out of the sky because they're TOO SLOW, the jets go 50kms an hour!

I think InfinityWard had it right from the start with COD. If the fans love it, embrace, make it better, and don't add anything completely different, just more graphics, more weapons and more ways to kill!

[Faron666]

hi i'm leader of Fraga clan and i'm agree with it too

now to be competitive we need 2500 credit to armor, 2500 to boost explosif, 2500 to boost vehicul and i don't have speak of weapon

We pay server and weapon so stop to thinks we are very rich .

2 solution:
- give the possibilité to control booster on the server unranked
-or give more credit !!!!!!!!!

[LuckySPOOOOON]

I have to agree with my Sergeants' points whole-heartedly.

Whilst I can't convince EA to not make extra money where possible (everyone has to make a living), abilities like the Mortar Strike are pretty much only useful maxed and with the booster. This means a huge number of training points + Battlefunds to take a stab at hopefully hitting someone. I'm still going to use the strike for it's morale benefits & because it feels a little bit cool, but knowing that the best I can hope for is around a +45 on a direct hit, it's just not worth the training points imho. I'd rather increase my spot & be of a better use to my team.

I would also really appreciate the option for permanent boosters. I'd much more easily consider paying for boosters if I didn't have to shelve out a few thousand BF every month or so. It's just not worth the cash.

Also, I have to make the point, changing the base stats of some basic gameplay elements to sell boosters (claymores for instance) is a bit cheap. If you're going to call it Play4Free, it has to still be playable without spending a cent.

I think that EA can save themselves on this one, admit some level of fault, and make some fairly minor changes to some aspects, to keep us happy and get us back on side.

[Smorr]

to everyone that replied, would be great if u share the link to this with every clan u know, like i already did, and talk about the needed opportunity for nearly every clan(server).
these changes are needed in every aspect to make it a league game and a game (still) interesting for clans.
cause its about competition and challenge.

Greetings

[Jaegi]

I agree to Pommes comment.

We want to test talent and tactic no who have the most booster.

[EgoPrimez]

IF u want to make diference DON'T talk about those isues here. NO1 WILL LISTEN YOU.

Instead go to the TOP and send an e-mail to the top brass.


Here is mail of Ben Cousins, General Manager of Easy. - bcousins@ea.com -
That is guy who makes calls about BFP4FREE & BFH.

BUT pls don't send tarded mails to that guy. SEND something smart and sound.

[-:Macbeth:-]

(27-10-2011 12:54 PM)EgoPrimez Wrote:  IF u want to make diference DON'T talk about those isues here. NO1 WILL LISTEN YOU.

Instead go to the TOP and send an e-mail to the top brass.


Here is mail of Ben Cousins, General Manager of Easy. - bcousins@ea.com -
That is guy who makes calls about BFP4FREE & BFH.

BUT pls don't send tarded mails to that guy. SEND something smart and sound.

This^^
Needs to sound Smart, Formal, and don't make it sound angry or sad. Also, needs to be in Perfect English.