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07-08-2011, 10:34 PM | Post: #1
Offline roennel 
NOTE: Updated version of this tool can be found HERE

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Info:

  • Game Version
    • Last Update: Check 'Home' Section on Tool Website
  • Tool Version
    • Last Update: Check 'Home' Section on Tool Website
  • Team
    • roennel [Image: ch.png]
    • Sforek [Image: pl.png]
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  • Bug Reporting/Ideas/Discussions
    • Use this ThreadShy


Functions:

  • Compare
    • The Main function of the Tool, it shows the Attributes of the Weapon Game Files in a more Human-Readable way, and sometimes supports that Attributes with Graphical Visualisations.
      It also has a Highlighting System which should make it easy for everybody to understand what is better and whats worse.
      Green is best, Red is the worst and everything Yellow is inbetween.
  • Rank
    • This is our first try at an easier Compare Function, you're able to choose the Attributes you most desire in a Weapon and then get a Ranked List of the Weapons that are statistically most likely to furfill those Attributes.
  • Charts
    • This is a Charts Generator that will generate Charts of (currently) Bullet-Drop, Absolute Range & Damage on a larger Scale than those Charts in the Compare Result.
  • Animated Plots
    • Plot Generator for visualizing Recoil/Deviation
  • Signature Generator

Server:

  • More Info to come...


Translations:

  • Czech
    • written by Johncze
    • Version 0.1
  • Portugese
    • written by G7R1
    • Version 0.1
  • German
    • written by Solid
    • Version 0.1
  • Polish
    • written by Sforek
    • Version 0.2
  • French
    • written by .L1Gh7~
    • Version 0.0 (offline)


Known Bugs/Issues:

  • AdBlock
    • Affects: Everything
    • Ad-Block (the Browser Plugin) and possibly some other Ad-Blockers will make the Site stop working as it's supposed to as it rate's the Javascript on the Site as 'bad' and will make most of the actual Numbers dissappear. (you will only see the red/yellow/green highlighting).
      Add the Domain to your trusted Domains and it should work.
    • Fixed by ay.j.eng, Thanks a lot!
  • Translations
    • Affects: Everything
    • Translations are still in their Alpha Stage, Translators did an excellent Job but we need to do a better System.
  • Rate of Fire
    • Affects: Compare/Search
    • Still unsure if those Modifications exist or not, may falsify Comparisons and/or Search Results
    • HATE Wrote:RoF modifiers - yes, but we don't use them in P4F. We built one for heroes Smile
  • Absolute Range
    • Affects: Charts/Compare
    • The Calculation for Absolute Range is pretty Accurate (probably the best values we've got so far instead of guesses).
      Nonetheless it isn't perfect, The real value could be a little bit higher.
  • Lead Compensation Chart
    • Affects: Compare
    • Still not known what Movement Type those 3 Values really define.
  • Inaccuracy (Deviation) Movement Modifier
    • Affects: Compare
    • Still not know what those Values define as well as how they get calculated.
  • Damage
    • Affects: Compare/Search
    • There seems to be a more dynamic System going on than just the initial/med/long Range principle.
      See this Thread for more Information.


Thanks:

  • to rukqoa, Solid & Nord for giving me the Idea for this whole Project with their Weapon Charts & Research. ( and at the same time sorry for making them obsoleteShy )
  • to ay.j.eng for pointing me in the right direction with some technical things
  • to Healin4ev3r for figuring out the "new" Damage System
  • to CriscoSpectrum for getting the Signature Generator going
  • to a lot of the community for reporting Bugs/adding Info & doing Research.


Misc:

  • Use this URL to have a Sandbox Layout of the Compare Function.
    It will always use the newest Game Version available.
  • People spend around 55 Hours on average on this Tool per Day in Total.
  • This Tool uses mainly PHP 5.3 & JavaScript running on a Dedicated Server with Debian & Apache 2. (Located in Germany)

(This post was last modified: 27-07-2012 10:48 PM by roennel.)
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07-08-2011, 10:53 PM | Post: #2
Offline Solid 
"Green" should stand for Better Weapon and "Red" for a Worse One, it´s too confusing if not.
5 Weapons are obviously too much.
The File Descriptions are Confusing
Where do you have "First Shot: X/f Following: X/f"from, are you sure that there is no random value generated? Calculated between the 1st and the 2nd one?
Some Values are really unnecessary.

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07-08-2011, 10:57 PM | Post: #3
Offline roennel 
Alright im gonna do an optional sorting button as long as the sort function isn't that accurate.

Suggestion about layout?

Yes i was to lazy right now to alias every weapon, will come.

The First Shot / Following is from a post of Nord, i may got it wrong.

Which Values would you kick? i just left any value that changes within some weapons.

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07-08-2011, 11:06 PM | Post: #4
Offline Solid 
(07-08-2011 10:57 PM)wtfwtf Wrote:  Suggestion about layout?

Yes i was to lazy right now to alias every weapon, will come.

The First Shot / Following is from a post of Nord, i may got it wrong.

Layout? Meh, would barely call it one. Seems just like Copy&Paste of the .cons into one .html

Yeah, Nord meant (maybe still means) that the RoF isn´t 2/3 of the shown one Dodgy
Instead of trusting the Grandmaster rukqoa Rolleyes

An Option would be good to compare specific Values instead of 1000, a premade one, i´d call it "Show Basic Stats", about the RoF, Mag Size&Count, Reloadtime, Recoil, ADS Deviation, Damage and Range would "nourish" nearly every Player

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07-08-2011, 11:12 PM | Post: #5
Offline roennel 
Even a bad layout is a layout Smile

Its not copy&paste, it reads it automatically from the .zip, thats mainly why i did it, i didn't wanted to interfere your work, more expand it. it probably saves some people some time. Just upload the newest Game Data and its there.

I agree with that, its still really rudimentary, more of a .con viewer i guess. I probably wait on bigger updates to the next Game Update, so i can implement the multiple Versions.

That Basic Stats idea sounds good, will do

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07-08-2011, 11:19 PM | Post: #6
Offline Solid 
(07-08-2011 11:12 PM)wtfwtf Wrote:  Its not copy&paste, it reads it automatically from the .zip,

So it is Copy&Paste done by an automated System Angel

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07-08-2011, 11:24 PM | Post: #7
Offline roennel 
Well yeah ok, i guess you won :-) but it does make things easier.

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07-08-2011, 11:39 PM | Post: #8
Offline NamelessSniper 
Actually a great idea. You should do a little bit of work for the users and translate what some of the stats mean (like weaponHud.useCartridgeBar or add a unit for the reload time 0.6 what?).

What did you program it in? PHP?

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07-08-2011, 11:48 PM | Post: #9
Offline roennel 
(07-08-2011 11:39 PM)NamelessSniper Wrote:  Actually a great idea. I might do a little bit of work for the users and translate what some of the stats mean (like weaponHud.useCartridgeBar).

What did you program it in? PHP?

Thanks! Yeah although i'm not really sure what that means, but it has probably something to do with the ammo showing/reload in the weapon slots. i need to have a look at the other weapons and probably play a bit to find that out Shy

Yes just php and a bit of javascript.

btw: i haven't read your post right the first time, yes i would be glad if you could help with those translations

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07-08-2011, 11:51 PM | Post: #10
Offline NamelessSniper 
Just thought you might want to know, but you are getting an error when running the script and comparing two weapons: Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$onlyBasic in /var/www/clients/client4/web1/web/bfp4f_tools/controllers/CompareController.php on line 29

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07-08-2011, 11:52 PM | Post: #11
Offline roennel 
(07-08-2011 11:51 PM)NamelessSniper Wrote:  Just thought you might want to know, but you are getting an error when running the script and comparing two weapons: Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$onlyBasic in /var/www/clients/client4/web1/web/bfp4f_tools/controllers/CompareController.php on line 29

Damn, you actually got that in the 10 seconds it happenedBlush thanks!

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07-08-2011, 11:54 PM | Post: #12
Offline PainCake1337 
M95 Holosight ?
This needs more work ^^''
Otherwise , good ;D

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08-08-2011, 12:13 AM | Post: #13
Offline jusper 
It's actually pretty useful, but it really does need some explanation of the different categories.
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08-08-2011, 01:58 PM | Post: #14
Offline Johncze 
Great tool, thanks for it Big Grin and if you want translate it into the Czech language, just PM me.

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08-08-2011, 02:31 PM | Post: #15
Offline SquareScout 
with a bit polish it will turn out quite nicely I guess.

btw. LMG is "light machine gun" not "large"

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08-08-2011, 02:36 PM | Post: #16
Offline NamelessSniper 
(07-08-2011 11:48 PM)wtfwtf Wrote:  btw: i haven't read your post right the first time, yes i would be glad if you could help with those translations

That's actually not what I meant, you read it right the first time Tongue

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08-08-2011, 05:18 PM | Post: #17
Offline roennel 
(07-08-2011 11:54 PM)PainCake1337 Wrote:  M95 Holosight ?
This needs more work ^^''
Otherwise , good ;D

Yes, there is a M95 Holo in the Game Files Smile

(08-08-2011 12:13 AM)jusper Wrote:  It's actually pretty useful, but it really does need some explanation of the different categories.

Working on that, i plan to do extended descriptions as tooltips.

(08-08-2011 01:58 PM)Johncze Wrote:  Great tool, thanks for it Big Grin and if you want translate it into the Czech language, just PM me.

np! i haven't got a translation layer yet, but i will probably pm you at some point.

(08-08-2011 02:31 PM)SquareScout Wrote:  with a bit polish it will turn out quite nicely I guess.

btw. LMG is "light machine gun" not "large"

Aww your right, thanks!

(08-08-2011 02:36 PM)NamelessSniper Wrote:  
(07-08-2011 11:48 PM)wtfwtf Wrote:  btw: i haven't read your post right the first time, yes i would be glad if you could help with those translations

That's actually not what I meant, you read it right the first time Tongue

Lol alright, i guess it was good i went to sleep after posting that...Smile

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08-08-2011, 05:22 PM | Post: #18
Offline G7R1 
need a translation to Portuguese? PT-BR? contact me!


and aways, good job mate!

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08-08-2011, 05:32 PM | Post: #19
Offline roennel 
(08-08-2011 05:22 PM)G7R1 Wrote:  need a translation to Portuguese? PT-BR? contact me!


and aways, good job mate!

I will! Thanks!

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08-08-2011, 05:39 PM | Post: #20
Offline Solid 
Translating it into an understandable English and German wouldn´t be difficult for me either

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