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06-06-2012, 08:36 AM | Post: #61
Offline Deputy 
(06-06-2012 08:29 AM)Healin4ev3r Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 08:13 AM)HomeSen Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 07:47 AM)ay.j.eng Wrote:  The first 'i' in WiKI isn't uppercase Tongue

Doesn't matter. According to the Forum Rules "excessive or unneeded use of upper case letters" is considered spamming Wink And just making one letter lowercase is still (almost-)all-CAPS Wink

Why don't you just fix this for him then ._. . You worked on this thread, also.

Yeah take that !
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06-06-2012, 08:41 AM | Post: #62
Offline HomeSen 
(06-06-2012 08:29 AM)Healin4ev3r Wrote:  Why don't you just fix this for him then ._. . You worked on this thread, also.

How did I work on this thread, please?
Also, I'm a Community Moderator, not a janitor. And AFAIK, the thread title followed the rules, some time ago.

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06-06-2012, 10:16 AM | Post: #63
Offline Mr.Profesional 
Why this Great Thread Ain't STICKY?

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06-06-2012, 03:49 PM | Post: #64
Offline Healin4ev3r 
(06-06-2012 08:41 AM)HomeSen Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 08:29 AM)Healin4ev3r Wrote:  Why don't you just fix this for him then ._. . You worked on this thread, also.

How did I work on this thread, please?
Also, I'm a Community Moderator, not a janitor. And AFAIK, the thread title followed the rules, some time ago.

Well you deleted some first replies on this thread to make more reserved post for Merlini.

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18-06-2012, 12:21 AM | Post: #65
Offline ImRaN_Vs_NiZaM 
cool!!! merlini will fight TBS!! (i guess) XD

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19-06-2012, 08:54 AM | Post: #66
Offline Merlini 
forgot to bump the thread :\
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19-06-2012, 09:07 AM | Post: #67
Offline Healin4ev3r 
you know that you typed my name on first post with a typo, right :/ ?

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19-06-2012, 09:27 AM | Post: #68
Offline Merlini 
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19-06-2012, 05:45 PM | Post: #69
Offline DeltaForce 
And the creator of the P4F Tool is not that hm dude.

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24-06-2012, 12:23 PM | Post: #70
Offline TacticalS 
I`m a bit confused right now. I always thought that stocks did the same effect on all guns within a given class.

So if you look at this example for assault:
http://bfp4f.alchemical.ch/en/_/59de90a6...84220b7f4b

You see that on one gun stabilized lowers horizontal recoil by 0.31, and on the other stabilized lowers it by 0.26.

Was it always like this? I didn`t know that effects of a stock varied across guns within the same class

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24-06-2012, 12:29 PM | Post: #71
Offline ay.j.eng 
(24-06-2012 12:23 PM)TacticalS Wrote:  I`m a bit confused right now. I always thought that stocks did the same effect on all guns within a given class.

So if you look at this example for assault:
http://bfp4f.alchemical.ch/en/_/59de90a6...84220b7f4b

You see that on one gun stabilized lowers horizontal recoil by 0.31, and on the other stabilized lowers it by 0.26.

Was it always like this? I didn`t know that effects of a stock varied across guns within the same class

Stabilized Stock modifies the initial left/right recoil value not the ADS value. The ADS value gets calculated by applying the zoomModifier and SCAR-L and 416C have different zoomModifiers. If you look at the normal "Recoil Force Left/Right" stat, you'll see that Stabilized Stock has the same effect on both weapons: 0.45 horizontal recoil reduction.

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24-06-2012, 12:33 PM | Post: #72
Offline NonJaBLOBS 
(24-06-2012 12:29 PM)ay.j.eng Wrote:  
(24-06-2012 12:23 PM)TacticalS Wrote:  I`m a bit confused right now. I always thought that stocks did the same effect on all guns within a given class.

So if you look at this example for assault:
http://bfp4f.alchemical.ch/en/_/59de90a6...84220b7f4b

You see that on one gun stabilized lowers horizontal recoil by 0.31, and on the other stabilized lowers it by 0.26.

Was it always like this? I didn`t know that effects of a stock varied across guns within the same class

Stabilized Stock modifies the initial left/right recoil value not the ADS value. The ADS value gets calculated by applying the zoomModifier and SCAR-L and 416C have different zoomModifiers. If you look at the normal "Recoil Force Left/Right" stat, you'll see that Stabilized Stock has the same effect on both weapons: 0.45 horizontal recoil reduction.

Erh... This may sound like a 'noob' question. I can't really wrap my head around such complicated topics that Healin and ay.j seem to flawlessly excel in. Tongue

But what's a zoom modifier?

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24-06-2012, 12:44 PM | Post: #73
Offline ay.j.eng 
(24-06-2012 12:33 PM)NonJaBLOBS Wrote:  
(24-06-2012 12:29 PM)ay.j.eng Wrote:  Stabilized Stock modifies the initial left/right recoil value not the ADS value. The ADS value gets calculated by applying the zoomModifier and SCAR-L and 416C have different zoomModifiers. If you look at the normal "Recoil Force Left/Right" stat, you'll see that Stabilized Stock has the same effect on both weapons: 0.45 horizontal recoil reduction.

Erh... This may sound like a 'noob' question. I can't really wrap my head around such complicated topics that Healin and ay.j seem to flawlessly excel in. Tongue

But what's a zoom modifier?

The zoomModifier in this case refers to the recoil.zoomModifier value defined in the weapon file e.g.

Code:
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/1.4/0.7/0
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-0.85/0.85/0
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilGraphFrameCount 15
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilGraphExponent 6
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilGraphTotalMovement 0.6
ObjectTemplate.recoil.zoomModifier 0.68

It defines the amount of recoil you get when you ADS. The other values (e.g. recoilForceLeftRight) define the initial/hipfire recoil stats. The ADS recoil gets calculated by applying the zoomMod over the initial recoil values. The initial values are the ones that Stabilized stock modifies; Nemesis and Tactical on the other hand modify the zoomModifier, so they have no effect on hipfire recoil.

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24-06-2012, 12:50 PM | Post: #74
Offline TacticalS 
ah, I understand now. Thx

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24-06-2012, 02:39 PM | Post: #75
Offline NonJaBLOBS 
Thanks aj.y, i get it now Big Grin

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25-06-2012, 11:44 PM | Post: #76
Offline Cawdor. 
why isn't this pinned btw?

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29-06-2012, 06:21 AM | Post: #77
Offline Merlini 
Thanks for the duct tape
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29-06-2012, 07:39 AM | Post: #78
Offline HomeSen 
(25-06-2012 11:44 PM)Cawdor. Wrote:  why isn't this pinned btw?

Well, back when I wanted to apply some sticky tape, the thread title violated the Forum Rules Wink

(29-06-2012 06:21 AM)Merlini Wrote:  Thanks for the duct tape

Anytime again Wink

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30-06-2012, 09:19 PM | Post: #79
Offline DeltaForce 
The creator of the P4F Tool is not that hm dude.
Doesn't make sense to me to mention wrong people in the credits.

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10-07-2012, 07:31 PM | Post: #80
Offline Ruskiy-Zheka 
Thanks for the training points help.

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