Its not just the +3 be only a little better than standard, because we paid at last 15 $ for a perm weapon before 20 dec, and now players can buy at 3x less the original price, increase damage, range, precision, ammo cap and overall ammo of +3, like elite legacy, giving +3 to old elite legacy, was not a fair compensation, never will be, because i can't notice the difference, only a few more bullets..
Um. There is a major damage increase to all weapons with +3. There is also a major accuracy increase for those with twitchy shots. THe ammo capacity is greater, and the range is also increased at short bursts of shots. Holding down the trigger on an M240B and hoping that you take out the sniper on the other side of the map in the first ten to fifteen bullets is just nuts. The range of a weapon can be increased only if you control the volume of rounds, per burst, you unoad on your target. ut yes it would be nice to have a weapon boost of +5, like the legacy of "Legend" or something along the lines of better than Elite.
i at least want my saw with 120/240, and my Scar-L 36/108
(05-05-2012 02:28 AM)AfdsasZ Wrote: [ -> ]Its not just the +3 be only a little better than standard, because we paid at last 15 $ for a perm weapon before 20 dec, and now players can buy at 3x less the original price, increase damage, range, precision, ammo cap and overall ammo of +3, like elite legacy, giving +3 to old elite legacy, was not a fair compensation, never will be, because i can't notice the difference, only a few more bullets..
I know what you mean...
But this is EA, so not gonna happen
It´s EAsy so forget about this real fast.
No, they should remove them completely!
(05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
I would agree but ONLY if EAsy would compensate us properly. After all we´ve payed 980 BF / 5580 Play4Free Funds for those Elite weapons. Today a standard weapon costs 1249 Play4Free Funds.
So we should definetely get some Play4Free Funds back or some attachments to compensate the loss. Simply removing our paintjobs and a large amount of the amunition is just not right.
You wouldn´t treat your customers like that, would you?
they suck. period. end of story.
(05-05-2012 01:27 PM)Kugelhagel Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
I would agree but ONLY if EAsy would compensate us properly. After all we´ve payed 980 BF / 5580 Play4Free Funds for those Elite weapons. Today a standard weapon costs 1249 Play4Free Funds.
So we should definetely get some Play4Free Funds back or some attachments to compensate the loss. Simply removing our paintjobs and a large amount of the amunition is just not right.
You wouldn´t treat your customers like that, would you?
Well, I wouldn't mind either way. As I see it, we got to play with those weapons for quite a while and I sure got my moneys worth out of them. What I object to is that they are essentially unobtainable for any new player. THAT is unfair.
Just put +3 weapons on store
they're like boosters, they're unballancing the game
(05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
no, they should buff ALL weapons to "+3" stats
(05-05-2012 03:08 PM)Str1000ac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
no, they should buff ALL weapons to "+3" stats
More like : "no, they should make it available for me to buy all the stuffs that I didn't have money to buy while it was on sale" for you.
(05-05-2012 02:56 AM)AfdsasZ Wrote: [ -> ]i at least want my saw with 120/240, and my Scar-L 36/108
I think ALL LMGs should have at least 2 extra mags (3 total), but SCAR-L doesn't really need 4 mags, ammo boxes refill those fast enough, but ammo per mag should be more.
(05-05-2012 02:52 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 01:27 PM)Kugelhagel Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
I would agree but ONLY if EAsy would compensate us properly. After all we´ve payed 980 BF / 5580 Play4Free Funds for those Elite weapons. Today a standard weapon costs 1249 Play4Free Funds.
So we should definetely get some Play4Free Funds back or some attachments to compensate the loss. Simply removing our paintjobs and a large amount of the amunition is just not right.
You wouldn´t treat your customers like that, would you?
Well, I wouldn't mind either way. As I see it, we got to play with those weapons for quite a while and I sure got my moneys worth out of them. What I object to is that they are essentially unobtainable for any new player. THAT is unfair.
Don´t get me wrong. I fully agree with you on the fact that it´s unfair because unobtainable for others/newcomers. Yes you are right we´ve got our moneys worth out of them. After all we haven´t really bought them. We´ve actually just rented them with licenses also known as Battlefunds (todays Play4Free Funds).
Like I said though. There should at least be some special paintjobs for Legacy owners, even if not the original which sets us apart from the non-Legacy owners. This paintjob doesn´t boost our guns´s performances. It would be just like a closed beta uniform. We´re like pioneers because we´ve supported the game in the early stages even before the customization update. I don´t know about you but I am wearing my closed beta uniform simply because it´s unique and looks great on top of that.
I´d wish for something like that for our former Legacy weapons EVEN the standard Legacy weapons. I remember that during the Legacy period my standard AEK used to have Legacy attachments as well just like my standard M60, PKM etc. . For me those are Legacy weapons as well because I´ve bought them way before the customization update.
the new attachments that they are selling now are all part of old legacy attachments, ex: elite legacy barrel is the combination of precision barrel + stand off barrel + barrakuda barrel, the sum of all is elite legacy barrel, they are separating elite legacy stats and putting at every attachments, this in unjust, but whats really make me sad is the ammo per mag, a AR with 24 bullets per mag its a shame, and i need tell about LMGs?! i dont think so!
(05-05-2012 03:11 PM)Healin4ev3r Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 03:08 PM)Str1000ac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
no, they should buff ALL weapons to "+3" stats
More like : "no, they should make it available for me to buy all the stuffs that I didn't have money to buy while it was on sale" for you.
Healin4ev3r I don`t know how old you are but are you aware how broken your logic is.
Non "+3" weapons have coma stats, they are like paper toys.
Legacy buyers should have theirs BFunds spent on weapons refunded so that they can rebuy weapons of theirs choise.
I don`t play this game any more so I don`t really care what they will do next although I still have 3750 Funds on account. I almost spent extra 35€ for funds. Good I haven`t.
(05-05-2012 03:08 PM)Str1000ac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
no, they should buff ALL weapons to "+3" stats
No they shouldn't because considering the attachments which are currently available, some +3 weapons get ridiculous stats. The current level of the basic weapons are balanced.
(06-05-2012 11:30 AM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 03:08 PM)Str1000ac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2012 12:54 PM)BuckRaven Wrote: [ -> ]No, they should remove them completely!
no, they should buff ALL weapons to "+3" stats
No they shouldn't because considering the attachments which are currently available, some +3 weapons get ridiculous stats. The current level of the basic weapons are balanced.
They should, but also nerf some attachments (such as casket mag which should be removed completely).
Its better to buff basic stats and nerf attachments because then difference between UP-OP version of weapon wouldn't be so big.
That would make better balance about which EAsy lies so much.
I disagree.
First of all changing all stats of all weapons in the game would require a huge amount of playtesting and balancing/re-balancing. Removing +3 weapons wouldn't cause any balance issues what so ever.
Second, buffing all weapons would require balancing/re-balancing of all attachments.
Both of those issues create more problems than what it solves.
(06-05-2012 10:37 AM)Str1000ac Wrote: [ -> ]Healin4ev3r I don`t know how old you are but are you aware how broken your logic is.
Non "+3" weapons have coma stats, they are like paper toys.
Legacy buyers should have theirs BFunds spent on weapons refunded so that they can rebuy weapons of theirs choise.
I don`t play this game any more so I don`t really care what they will do next although I still have 3750 Funds on account. I almost spent extra 35€ for funds. Good I haven`t.
The point is, +3 owners will never get they funds back. End of the story.
