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I really like the way the majority of the game is set up and enjoy playing it. Once I got used to how the Training/Wpn page worked I had no major problems. I think the game depending on caping flags rather then kills is a good point. Gives some of the kiddies less incentive to cheat.
I feel the pistol (M9) is a bit overpowered, it shouldn't be able to out shoot an AR at distance nor a SMG up close.
One problem I do have is that whichever side grabs the most flags in the first minute of play wins the majority of times. An the US side seems to have an advantage in being able to rush directly to flags A, B, & C. Thus giving them a distinct advantage.
First time I have been in on a Closed Beta and I have really enjoyed it.
While I agree that they have the advantage of A & B quicker, C is a toss up I think. A quick driver can get the APC to C about the same time as the US side. It's close, but they do just make it, but someone that doesn't hurry, won't make it in time.

I think a good option would be to make an E capture, bump up the points by like 250, and have E be at the top of the hill above C where it was in front of the house. It gives the MEC their two points, US get their two points and the big decider is C.
I’m Addicted lol, I'm not going to lie.

But, at the same time all this game is is a copy of Bf2, with a store. I don’t care about buying a suit or funny hat.

I wanna know what is going to be the trend setter of this game. Why should I leave MC2 Or even Bf2, for bff2p? The bugs so far are not to bad, stuff that can be fixed. I just wanna know what you have in store for us die hard gamers that have been playing shooters for 15 years.

A suggestion.

If u really wants to make this game Amazing, add a whole structured leveling system with benefits. Drift away from the simple point and shoot strategy and add voice chat for teams, make is strategic. Update the graphics. Add bloom and point of vision, shadows, stuff like that.

It’s quit possibly the best Fps on the market, and a cash hauling dream, but if u stick to the tactics of BFH it will be mediocre. I know you EA folks have something up your sleeve, I can feel it.

Here is a list of what I would like to see.
1. Sniper variable zoom.
2. Sniper explosives, satchels or something.
3. Why can’t any class but engineers kill tanks?
4. A medic should not only be able to throw down packs to heal an area , he should be able raise and heal a single person quickly
5. Make it to where engineers can fix things , like turrets or radar , not just tanks
6. binoculars
7. An enhanced HUD, all around maybe with some transparency and for marked targets to show up on the map.
8. perks for each class , based on level
9. bloom intensity , 3d effects , explosions look like doo doo , tracers look cool already but a mounted machine gun on a tank / humvee should have tracers also , not just sniper rifles .
10. Only 1 grenade? , when u through a grenade it never goes where u want it to go lol

I could go on and on, but at the end of the day all I’m really asking for is for you guys to add some explosive content, and to get out of the bf2 mold. The game was phenomenal, but you’re trying to make money, so u want to BUILD on it, not just copy it. I have played some awesome shooters since BF2 that blow it out of the water, but when BF2 came out it was my favorite game ever! What ruined it u ask? People with aimbots and wallhacks and a lack of dev intervention. Make the game to where people can’t inject anything once it’s running. That will solve all your problems. I am not a programmer but I’m sure u can do this somehow lol

After all that is said , thanks for allowing me to test this beta , I will be around to see where u take the game , and I am honored for the opportunity to play a game in its infant stages to adult and see how it develops.
long time BF2 vet, first day playing.

I have to say i reallly do like this game. one main difference - it does NOT crash. BF2 keeps crashing quite frequently. this one does not ever crash - that's really appreciated.

played for 2 hours today. other than 3 guys i suspect had headshot scripts, no actual game bugs at all, no crashes.
Im a major BF2 karkand inf fan, but I think this game is much worse (so far)

1)I don't like the idea how you guys get random beta testers. In almost every game there is a hacker, lamer or some other sort of idiot. Although this is closed beta it's still fairly easy to get a key which results of idiots getting the majority of voice which will lead to making of not-so-good-game. I think this should be only BF2/BFH based beta community. (COD, CS & WoW players should go home.)
2)Right now I feel like theres 80% of BFH and 20% BF2. I'm not against new ideas and features but history shows that BF2 was/is far more popular than BFH so maybe cut some BFH features in favor of BF2:
-ability to change class (so it's possible to turn a game around mid-game)
-select spawnpoint
-a commander, or something different to favor UAV because NOONE uses "spot enemy" option.
3)Change the sniper "movement drone" It feels completely useless
4)Add prone
5)Squad option, for better teamplay
6)Show ping on scoreboard
The game was fun but I wish it was more like BF2 then BC2. BC2 is great but BF2 > BC2 anyday.

My Wishlist for P4F

1. Squads and Commander
2. Medics have access to assault rifles
3. One account can use all classes (not having that really annoyed me the most)
4. I don't think there were grenades, add them but limit then to 1 like in BC2 or 4 like in BF2 (but with no ability to resupply)

I used to play the closed beta for crossfire and I had no problems with lag there but it seems like this game is a bit laggy for me so I will have to try again after SmartClose closes all the unnecessary crap on my computer
This game is pretty nice. I definately plan on getting the full version soon (hopefully, to train for some Battlefield 3). Two things that bother me, however. First of all, I think the blue "friendly markers" above your teammates is a little too high. Case in point, I find myself accidentally shooting at my guys because I can't immediately see the blue dot hovering several feet above their heads.

Secondly, I think pistols need a slight nerf. I've had multiple run ins with snipers, and they'd mow me down with their pistol before I can properly get that last shot in. But, aside from those, I really dig this game.
I can't believe this game made it out of Alpha in this condition. The game has great potential and looks good so far, but it is far from beta ready. The store just got dropped in, there is no team or squad play essential to a game like this. Sound bugs, store bugs, menu and graphics bugs galore. I think this game is being rushed too much and in the end will hinder what it could become. Great games take time.
Played last night.

very fast graphics, very fast action. no game crashes, no game slows or stops due to a large ammount of activity going on.

overall a great improvement over BF2. I am very frustrated with BF2 at the moment, as the game seems to crash to the desk top every 15 minutes or so, despite having been reinstalled twice. this game does not crash, it's very fast (as in the graphics work very well), no more floating people, traveling through the air shooting and legs not moving, because the game could not handle the randomity.

that alone is a very welcome change.
After playing recon to level 4, here is my first impression post.

•After adding my 3 points to training skills, I clicked what looks like a refresh button next to "0 points remaining". It removed all of my training but did not give me back my points to reallocate. Huge bummer.

•My main problem with the game, possibly because I'm a recon, is the god awful headshot detection. As is, I can hardly score a headshot on a stationary target even once a game with the sniper rifle. It seems easier with a pistol. This happens often even when only a target's head is visible. In such cases I score 54 damage more often than that rare 82-or-something sniper damage.

•Jump height need a small increase to allow jumping over low objects..very wonky and impossible in same cases right now.

•The M9 pistol seems perfectly balanced. Edit: People who complain that it is OP; counter-arguments: All of the classes have it, the recon generally won't already have it drawn, and regardless primary automatic weapons are fully automatic and therefore superior, as they should be. If you get pistoled before you can shoot your automatic weapon at a recon, or any class for that matter, you would have died regardless what weapon the enemy had.

•The default sniper rifle needs a base damage boost. 54 seems very low for body shots. Coupled with terrible headshot detection, this is unfortunate for recon players. I still manage to do well enough though, often preferring to finish an enemy with my m9 rather than going for a second body shot. That being said:

•Body shot hit detection seems good. At very long ranges it can fail to register occasionally.

•Mouse acceleration needs at the very least an option to be toggled off..enough said.

•I don't particularly care about graphics, but the graphic quality of this game is, simply put, free2play quality. I don't really mind, I frequently play games of lower graphical quality, both p2p and f2p. That being said, I feel like I'm getting good fps, but then again we'd all like an fps meter. The graphical options are incredibly limited, with the only options being resolution and general quality. Who knows though, maybe that's a good thing.
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To be honest, I'm fairly worried that, at page 22 in the thread, first impression's posts aren't getting read anymore..Oh well, what do I know? If I could get a response to this post, it would be greatly appreciated. I intend to provide additional feedback regularly.

Thanks for reading.
All in all its nice. Lots of action on the Battlefield. Even more than in BF2. Weapons are good balanced (Engeneer) but I think that APCs are too weak and that tanks are too strong.
And the most important thing: You can´t lay down. It really pisses me off when there is a sniper shooting at me and I have only small cover in front of me. If I press Ctrl to crouch the enemy sniper will probably get 50+ and 10+ for Headshot -.-

Im really sorry if there are any mistakes in grammar or something. Im German.
Love the game!!! great grafix and sound but i think it a big game to be played within a browser!!!
you cant lay down dont like that every thing seams to be a slow motion the hole GUI is not logical takes time to get used to it... and i can go on.... but over all i like the experience all tho I dont see me playing this as much as combat arms(the grafix sux but game play is fun and is fast)...
As a major veteran of BF2 with hundreds of hours poured into the game, the closed beta really brought me back memories only more streamlined than before. I've played about over two hours worth and playing countless hours of BF2 really got me back in the fray quite quickly. The pros so far:

-Improved graphics over BF2.
-Runs quite smoothly with no FPS hitches whatsoever.
-Faster gameplay, due to the new spawning system, which I really like.
-Guns are generally quite accurate over BF2, which fires as accurate as muskets.
-No massive grenade spam!!! YES!!

Improvements that I'd like to see:

-More graphic options, including anti-aliasing and anistrophic filtering.
-Bring back the classic loading screens or at least bring in a cool, updated version from BF2
-Please include the ability to pickup kits!!!! This ability really helped me countless times in capturing flags and taking out enemies on the fly, especially tanks.
-Switching your own class to another in-game. As a veteran BF2 assault class member, I find it quite hard to take out tanks without switching to Engineering or helping out team members with med kits.
-No machine-gun emplacements can be found in Strike at Karkand. These MG's actually came in handy given the faster gameplay pace in P4F version.
-No proning ability. Pretty much everyone already said this.
-Bring back the Commander, please! Even the controllable UAV from BC2 would be great!
-Increase the amount of weapons available to choose from. I'd love to see the guns from BF2 Euro Maps (i.e., HK21, SA-80, etc) and BF2:Special Forces (SCAR-H, etc) add-ons come back.
-Ability to purchase reflex sights (red dot sights) and ACOG's for guns.
-Please, please include the ability to create squads and earn even more points by fighting as a team, not just a mish-mash of lone wolves.

Anyways, I'll be continuing to play P4F version until the inevitable BF3 for 2011!
Where to start...

1.) No prone! any cover less than waist hieght useless, and what LMG's do you fire from the standing or crouched, hence the bi-pod.
2.) No squads/teamplay, BF2 was extremely successful because of the teamplay.
3.) You should be able to select your kit from a screen and switch kits with other corpses
4.) Stupid trails on sniper rounds and nades, how a nades makes a trail ill never know
5.) Foolish perks, i.e "now you can climb a ladder faster" bf2 had none of these and was far better
6.) Not being able to pick your spawn point
7.) Not being able to hold on to your ammo/medic bags, knife, nades all very annoying
8.) Kill cam, being sneaky is part of the fun.
9.) Flag markers getting in the way, this could be toggled on and off in BF2 which was very usefull.

However I do like...
1.) The updated version of karky
2.) The guns especially the pistols
3.) I quite like the graphics definate improvement from bf2
4.) The vehicles are much better
5.) The scoring system is excellent
6.) Buying weapons (similar to css)

All I think most people want is BF2 but an updated version of, it is still one of the most played multiplayer shooters, don't fix what ain't broke Wink

Overall a dissapointing 6/10 in this stage of testing but the potential to be the next BF2

*coming from a veteran BF2 player*
First impression? The game has lots of potential. Never a dull moment, with bullets flying, tank shells blastin', and RPGs whizzing by. However, I noticed that A) Lots of server lag is detrimental to gameplay, B) Assault weapons are unusually accurate at full auto/rapid burst, C) Sniper Rifles hit like my three year old niece, D) Spawns outside of the main base usually end up as a raping ground via spawn killers in tanks, and E) there's no prone for the Recon class.
had my first game yesterday and I must say that I was surprised in a very good way Smile
The graphic is really good when you consider the use of small launchers and that it have been packed together Smile
Maybe it is because I have played a lot of BF2142 but I think that the ammo hub should be together with the LMG and the medic bag with the Assault Rifle, and allso I think that it is a little annoying that you can't pick your spawn point
And again the ability to prone

Otherwise thumbs up from me Big Grin
All in all, not bad. Only one real problem I have with the game so far, and that is the awful way you switch weapons. ATM I have to scroll and then click which is so slow and pointless and is costing me kills. Please make weapons change by just scrolling as in bfbc2 - I can handle most bugs in games but that isnt a bug, more thoughtless design imho
The good: Pretty decent graphics and sound. Runs at 50-80FPS on my PC with the graphics on full. Good range of guns, classes and vehicles keep the game interesting. And its nice to have a game mode that is focused on points rather than just kills. Barely anyone camps Wink (although snipers are annoying) Rolleyes

Bad: I've seen 2 or 3 definate hackers and a few other suspicous cases. The M16 is really overpowered and you can effectivly snipe with it and shotguns are despiratly lacking in power. tanks are really hard to kill unless you are a RPG class or another tank.

I think this game has potential to be amazing but it needs a few tweaks to weapon power and the addition of anti tank mines would be pretty decent aswell.
A list of things which need improvement:
-Game is laggy AS HELL, don't know if it's the netcode or if there's just not enough servers on the map
-DISPLAY PING
-Server browser
-no chat while scoreboard (why is there a scoreboard screen anyway?)
-a lot of bugs to fix
Yes 1st look at it,it looks good.

Just a couple of point's though ;-).The 1st & also the worst (well at least for me),is the fact that it won't save any xp that you've gained through playing,if this was fixed i would of been at about 13 now instead of the lowley lvl 5 :-(.

The other small point is sniper lag,but other than that a major achievement & thumbs up to you all at E.A for a cracking game :-)

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